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they think they stole the 2012 election. >> joe? >> let's look at the front page of the "washington post." it talks about how turkey is going to get nato missiles. i remember when your book came out last year and we did some events with you, you kept talking about the key position, it turkey would play in the world. we're seeing it now especially in syria. but now becoming more powerful force than nato. this is happening. you foresaw it. why is it happening? >> it's happening because the situation is such that we realize we need turkey and it is the point of departure for any effective, constructive or destructive solution. it's as basic as that. but we have to be aware of the fact we can't let turkey out on a limb by itself. extremely successful but vulnerable from the inside. and i can see enemies of turkey ganging up on turkey, stimulating the kurd ishii you, for example, which could be explosive and damaging to turkey's long-range future. >> and you also have a much more complicated relationship between turkey and israel now. >>
they think they stole the 2012 election. >> joe? >> let's look at the front page of the "washington post." it talks about how turkey is going to get nato missiles. i remember when your book came out last year and we did some events with you, you kept talking about the key position, it turkey would play in the world. we're seeing it now especially in syria. but now becoming more powerful force than nato. this is happening. you foresaw it. why is it happening? >> it's...
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. >>> now over to japan, where election timing may spell budget delays. we have the story from tokyo. >> the election campaign has officially kicked off in japan, but there are worries the budget is not likely to be ready pi the end of this year. they will likely call a special session to elect a new prime minister, then select a cabinet before moving on to budget matters. once they reconvene in january, the new government would likely pass the supplementary budget first before submitting its fiscal 2013 plan in february. so a senior lawmaker predicts that the fiscal 2013 budget will not actually pass until mid may. that's more than a month into the new fiscal year. and if the government can't get the job done by the end of march, a provisional budget will be needed. opinion polls show the gap between the ldp and the ruling democratic party has been narrowing. that means if the ldp can't get their majority, these bills could be delayed even more. back to you, ross. >> all right, thanks for that. that's the late fres the nikkei. still to come, the business
. >>> now over to japan, where election timing may spell budget delays. we have the story from tokyo. >> the election campaign has officially kicked off in japan, but there are worries the budget is not likely to be ready pi the end of this year. they will likely call a special session to elect a new prime minister, then select a cabinet before moving on to budget matters. once they reconvene in january, the new government would likely pass the supplementary budget first before...
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when they say we got re-elected. you got re-elected during gerrymandering. had nothing to do with anything else. but when you're talking about the disabilities issue the reason that the republicans don't want that is because that puts into place where there's actual regulation. employers have to make modest accommodations and hire people and they can't discriminate against them. that's the biggest issue. look what they're doing now adjusting for the fiscal cliff. they've said hey let's cut benefits for disabled veterans. >> stephanie: it is amazing. you're right about them saying oh, you know, americans voted for a republican house. no they didn't. a million more people voted for democrats than republicans. >> gerrymandering. >> stephanie: this is not a mandate for more obstructionism. >> a case where the republicans are supporting multinationals -- you hear a lot of clamoring about small business. this is a party that is about multinational corporations. bp and large companies that don't really operate within the united states and a treaty like this would t
when they say we got re-elected. you got re-elected during gerrymandering. had nothing to do with anything else. but when you're talking about the disabilities issue the reason that the republicans don't want that is because that puts into place where there's actual regulation. employers have to make modest accommodations and hire people and they can't discriminate against them. that's the biggest issue. look what they're doing now adjusting for the fiscal cliff. they've said hey let's cut...
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anna winter raised money to get president obama re-elect and it could be paying off for her now. bloomberg news is reporting that she is on the short list to be the next ambassador to the u.k. or to france. a hat tip to the "new york post," owned by the parent company of the network. she was trying to audition by fundraisers and glossy spreads in the magazine. what do you think? quid pro quo? >> dana: yeah, i do. she is an accomplished woman. if you have a movie made that says you're the devil you'v youe something. >> greg: they made one for you. >> dana: i'll reserve comment whether she deserves it and would be a good ambassador. we talked about this eight months ago with a big event here. someone slipped it out she would love to be the u.k. ambassador. i think it could happen. >> andrea: do you think it's real or her floating her own name for job? >> greg: i would like to send her away. england sent us victoria beckham. six-figure exchange program. i could have used another word but decided to be clean. she tells an assistant to float it and it helps her keep her job another ye
anna winter raised money to get president obama re-elect and it could be paying off for her now. bloomberg news is reporting that she is on the short list to be the next ambassador to the u.k. or to france. a hat tip to the "new york post," owned by the parent company of the network. she was trying to audition by fundraisers and glossy spreads in the magazine. what do you think? quid pro quo? >> dana: yeah, i do. she is an accomplished woman. if you have a movie made that says...
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after the election, which his party lost, he's now offering post-election this much new revenue. so his offer since losing the election got worse. that new offer came in a new outline of proposals that the republicans sent to the president in a letter yesterday. it's a plan that they describe in their letter as "a fair middle ground." here's what they consider a fair middle ground. we did this in chart form today. because it turns out it's really simple. and looking at it this way makes it simple. here's what they are offering. on the side of what the republic republicans get, the republicans get the tax rates they want, the medicare cuts they want, the trillion dollars in spending cuts president obama agreed to, hundreds of billions in additional cuts, ending the payroll tax break, ending jobless benefits and they get the opportunity to create a new debt ceiling crisis in a few months. that's on the republican side, what the republicans get in their proposal. what do the democrats get in their proposal? they get this. a promise to end undefined tax deductions and loopholes of so
after the election, which his party lost, he's now offering post-election this much new revenue. so his offer since losing the election got worse. that new offer came in a new outline of proposals that the republicans sent to the president in a letter yesterday. it's a plan that they describe in their letter as "a fair middle ground." here's what they consider a fair middle ground. we did this in chart form today. because it turns out it's really simple. and looking at it this way...
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our people in an overwhelmingly support re-election. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail him out. at least she is honest about what they are looking for. they are not honest about the problem. >> bob: pall ryan fleeced left and right. >> dana: you are hilarious. >> greg: i was hoping this was bacon. i thought they were bringing bacon home. i was depressed -- >> kimberly: you like bacon. >> greg: everybody got bacon instead of money it would be a better place. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, three stories that you will not believe the real story behind the shoeless nan the photo that made national headlines. atheists won a battle in the war on christma
our people in an overwhelmingly support re-election. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in...
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isn't that what we elected you to do? >> is this not a bailout mentality, which we have in america today? after all, we always go back to the wall street bailout. bailing out the rich guys, why can't you bail us out now? we are in dire straits. megyn: that is a compelling argument. but the wall street fat cats that took huge risks that they knew they couldn't sustain -- they got the bailout. >> that bailout was paid back with the proper to the central government. megyn: maybe detroit says they will pay it back. but this is part of the moral hazard. the hazard of the bank bailout. it was not just that rewarded with a risky behavior. but they would take it again. but it sends a message across the board, which is the feds ought to be there to support you if things go wrong. i don't know detroit, whether it is due to bad decision-making. maybe it is just that people move and migrate and so on. is it someone else's responsibility or the responsibility of folks are their? >> the responsibility of folks out of there. this is a b
isn't that what we elected you to do? >> is this not a bailout mentality, which we have in america today? after all, we always go back to the wall street bailout. bailing out the rich guys, why can't you bail us out now? we are in dire straits. megyn: that is a compelling argument. but the wall street fat cats that took huge risks that they knew they couldn't sustain -- they got the bailout. >> that bailout was paid back with the proper to the central government. megyn: maybe...
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>> it was an election and it was a very close election. if you look at the nims and the differences between the two. i think the republican party can do a better job of limited government and freep enterprise movement and connect those policies. >> why has there been a failure to connect? >> i'm not sure there is one reason for it and i haven't had time to think about it why it has happened but it needs to happen. the principles we stand for, free enterprise and limited government is the only way to stabilize and grow our middle class which i hope every american can attain. >> how worried are you about the republican chances -- >> you mean from the voters' perspective. the demographic changes? i don't think any voter in america -- there are voters that are locked into one party or the other but the fastest growing group is people who vote for candidates and not parties and people understand the issues and hopes that they have and offer real and concrete policy situations and real role for government to play in addressing those angst yits t
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so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly, carol. one thing that has been interesting with regard to john boehner's leadership of the republican conference, which certainly is very conservative and he has had to balance that with negotiations with the white house on a number of occasions, one thing that's interesting is that until now he really has been able to maintain their loyalty. and their confidence that whatever he does, he he's doing for a reason because the alternative would be worse. and one thing that he did in a very deliberate way on this particular counter offer, which they sent to the white house earlier this week, was it wasn't just a letter from boehner to the president. it was a letter from the entire republican leadership, including p
so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly, carol. one thing that has been interesting with regard to john boehner's leadership of the republican conference, which certainly is very...
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as a republican against president obama in this past election election. and it's all on tape. this is se lashs almost to the point. we're talking about general petraeus. long-time republican, possible contender, the man who just resigned from running the cia in a sex scandal we still don't understand. here he is on tape talking about how he will have the fox news chairman run his campaign and the owner of fox news will bankroll his campaign and he raises the issue of his wife. there's a certain level of interest in this new tape because of who is on it. beyond that, there's the media factor. here's the fox news channel trying to recruit a presidential candidate for the republican party. the fox news chairman telling bob woodward once he was reporting on this, "i thought the republican field in the primaries needed to be shaken up and petraeus might be a good candidate." he said that on the record. after being caught doing it on tape. which means the fox news channel seriously is not like anything news. they officially are just a media arm of the republican party. they are a po
as a republican against president obama in this past election election. and it's all on tape. this is se lashs almost to the point. we're talking about general petraeus. long-time republican, possible contender, the man who just resigned from running the cia in a sex scandal we still don't understand. here he is on tape talking about how he will have the fox news chairman run his campaign and the owner of fox news will bankroll his campaign and he raises the issue of his wife. there's a certain...
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and it also means that elections have consequences. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> tonight, jay carney's position in the white house secretary hall of fame is assured by what he said today in the white house press briefing room about the republicans' latest budget proposal. quote, it is magic beans and fairy dust. >> i'm worried about the fiscal cliff in the same way i'm worried about martians. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal whatever it is. >> is this a rerun? >> still no progress as all sides jockey for position. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> speaker john boehner issued a downer offer yesterday. >> the white house quickly dismissed it. >> the speaker's proposal is out of balance. >> it is more of the same. >> it is not me being positive. it is the math. >> magic math. >> magic beans and fairy dust. >> president obama did win the election. >> me thinks somebody made him king. >> no. i don't think that's right. >> he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> i would say we're nowhere. >> are we that
and it also means that elections have consequences. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >>> tonight, jay carney's position in the white house secretary hall of fame is assured by what he said today in the white house press briefing room about the republicans' latest budget proposal. quote, it is magic beans and fairy dust. >> i'm worried about the fiscal cliff in the same way i'm worried about martians. >> fiscal cliff. >> fiscal...
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in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal must raise taxes on the highest earner. yesterday obama also appeared to showroom for flexibility on actually relowering those tax rates in the future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. p what i've suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close, and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at
in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal must raise taxes on the highest earner. yesterday obama also appeared to showroom for flexibility on actually relowering those tax rates in the future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've...
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he realizes that he won the election. even the romney voters by more than a majority agree on raising taxes with the rich and he is not going to cave on it. it makes no sense to do it politically and clickly. this is a litmus test going into the next four years of his material. he's going to hang in there. >> another idea out there that is particular, you know, one i really supported attack on financial transaction, we have all these shares traded every day, we have a sales tax and why not impose a tiny little tax when stocks are traded to raise a huge amount of money. any movement in that corner? >> not yet. i'm the co sponsor on that. and it is good idea. this hyper trading that's about market speculation it has nothing to do with liquidities in the market, nothing to do with making a market. we need a strong financial sector but we need one that is in service of the productive economy. we can't have a productive economy that's in service of wall street. the hyper trading is only bad for creating those markets. i think
he realizes that he won the election. even the romney voters by more than a majority agree on raising taxes with the rich and he is not going to cave on it. it makes no sense to do it politically and clickly. this is a litmus test going into the next four years of his material. he's going to hang in there. >> another idea out there that is particular, you know, one i really supported attack on financial transaction, we have all these shares traded every day, we have a sales tax and why...
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some republicans looking to overhaul immigration after getting pummeled in the presidential election including a new gop superpack that hopes to give conservative donors a better return on their millions. joining me congressman luis gutierrez, democrat from illinois and member of the congressional hispanic caucus. always good to see you. >> thanks, chris, good morning. >> president obama won 71% of the latino vote we heard romney campaign manager saying he regretted running hard to the right in the primary. the opposing view is the gop's latino problem isn't based on immigration issues. there's a pew exit poll of hispanic voters taken in november found immigration isn't in the top four issues. is too much made a political issue how important it is to the political community? >> number one, if you ask latinos what is the most important thing, my job, the economy, educating my children, crime. before the latino audiences, political audiences will listen to you as a candidate. you first cannot be mean, nasty, spirited towards immigrants. if you are they simply shut you off. so i think t
some republicans looking to overhaul immigration after getting pummeled in the presidential election including a new gop superpack that hopes to give conservative donors a better return on their millions. joining me congressman luis gutierrez, democrat from illinois and member of the congressional hispanic caucus. always good to see you. >> thanks, chris, good morning. >> president obama won 71% of the latino vote we heard romney campaign manager saying he regretted running hard to...
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, meaning the president, and re-elected us. that's not a mandate to raise taxes. it's a mandate to work together. >> mandate to work together which means they may not go on their break which is expected. i heard the speaker tell you that he's going to tell you as well. quickly, dana, he's going to stay regardless of whether they go on break, right? >> reporter: right. and the question was the house of representatives is going to finish their work this week in about 45 minutes and it's only wednesday. >> right. >> reporter: they are going to go home. they are not going to be in session on thursday or friday. i asked the speaker whether that is got optics for the house to leave town while the fiscal cliff is so close in front of us and that is the answer, that he will be in town, ready, willing, and able to talk to the president at any time. so that was really the issue. the house republican leadership, i tell you, they say they simply don't have any legislation to put on the floor. that's why they are play sending their members
, meaning the president, and re-elected us. that's not a mandate to raise taxes. it's a mandate to work together. >> mandate to work together which means they may not go on their break which is expected. i heard the speaker tell you that he's going to tell you as well. quickly, dana, he's going to stay regardless of whether they go on break, right? >> reporter: right. and the question was the house of representatives is going to finish their work this week in about 45 minutes and...
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that was before the election. and i just holding the ground is going to be important, no question about that. i get a sense the democrats are unified. but going over the cliff, that affects the constituents big time. correct? >> how do you hold that together? >> there's unanimity that july 25th, we passed tax cuts for the 98% to continue this tax policy that they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>> and senator john mccain hints he might favor filibuster reform. debbie stabenow is here on
that was before the election. and i just holding the ground is going to be important, no question about that. i get a sense the democrats are unified. but going over the cliff, that affects the constituents big time. correct? >> how do you hold that together? >> there's unanimity that july 25th, we passed tax cuts for the 98% to continue this tax policy that they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do...
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i was re-elected. the american people understand that we have a serious fiscal challenge in our country. we want to meet obligations to the seniors. we have work to do. we have committed to spending cuts. we need the republicans to commit to some revenue while protecting and strengthening the middle class. protect the tax cuts of the middle class and expand opportunity for success in the country, that we really work toward economic growth the right way and a partner. it's got to be spending cuts and revenue. >> what do you feel about this proposal, if you will, that's been floated out by some to deal with the tax cuts now and deal with the other issues of medicare and i bring0u$ medicae because you have concerns about co-pay and other issues that could affect a number of people, not just in your state but of course we know throughout. >> there are a number of issues facing us. i think it's very important to extend the middle class tax cuts and it's great if it's true but we haven't heard speaker boehn
i was re-elected. the american people understand that we have a serious fiscal challenge in our country. we want to meet obligations to the seniors. we have work to do. we have committed to spending cuts. we need the republicans to commit to some revenue while protecting and strengthening the middle class. protect the tax cuts of the middle class and expand opportunity for success in the country, that we really work toward economic growth the right way and a partner. it's got to be spending...
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we had an election, thomas, where americans had a clear choice and they chose and we need to make sure that we think a balanced approach that is fair, that doesn't throw the middle class under the bus and that works mathematically. so far what we've seen from republicans in the house does not work in terms of reducing the deficit. >> congresswoman, we are watching the president on our screen at the business roundtable. there was an issue with the poll microphone for the president's address so they've handed him a different microphone, the leaders inside this room can hear exactly what the president is saying but his audio is too low for us to be able to share it with everybody. we're still working on that. when we see and hear about the fact this two-step plan getting something done for the middle class by the end of the year, does this set up the scenario we live in a perpetual state of fiscal cliff loopness, this is the same old dog and pony show every six months to a year fighting over the same things and not big, bold leadership? >> i hope not, certainly if it's not left up to pres
we had an election, thomas, where americans had a clear choice and they chose and we need to make sure that we think a balanced approach that is fair, that doesn't throw the middle class under the bus and that works mathematically. so far what we've seen from republicans in the house does not work in terms of reducing the deficit. >> congresswoman, we are watching the president on our screen at the business roundtable. there was an issue with the poll microphone for the president's...
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they don't have an election until november of 2014. they need to say look, you want to negotiate seriously, we'll sit down and talk. you don't want to negotiate seriously, the country will survive going off this cliff. it's largely a factor in terms of american history, the people will not look back on as a giant tragedy. we need to have serious effort to get this country reorganized and i see no sign that the political system today is at all prepared for that kind of serious thinking. >> but what is so serious about the thinking of a party that just is implacably opposed to raising income tax even for the richest 2%? because the american people don't give a stuff. in all the polls, two-thirds of them are yes, let's tax the wealthiest 2% and by the way, that's me and you, newt. i don't know about you, i'm quite happy to pay a little bit more if it helps the general good. are you? >> well, piers, i'm happy for you to pay it, too. if you want to write a check this evening, the treasury will accept it. i'm delighted with your sense of cit
they don't have an election until november of 2014. they need to say look, you want to negotiate seriously, we'll sit down and talk. you don't want to negotiate seriously, the country will survive going off this cliff. it's largely a factor in terms of american history, the people will not look back on as a giant tragedy. we need to have serious effort to get this country reorganized and i see no sign that the political system today is at all prepared for that kind of serious thinking. >>...
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and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be risking a civil war over this issue. it does not look like obama is ready to cave. if that forces republican leaders to compromise staunch conservatives will likely rebel. more "bill press" up after the break. we will be right back. exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer
and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be...
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effective at being able to hide the net impact of his plan and ride this general good feeling of his election. it's not a healthy situation politically. we've got to do the right thing for the country. >> all right, senator. i was really struck by how easily he said -- steve said, look, if we don't get higher taxes we go over the cliff? absolutely. good to have you on the program. >> we want to avoid that. every republican is firmly convinced we should not go over this cliff and should be avoided. >> exactly. thank you, senator. see you soon. we'll certainly come back to you as the story develops. we get more reaction right now from maya mcginness. she's been rallying up ceos across the country to get involved in this and get heard. maya, nice to see you again. thanks for joining us. >> nice to see you. >> give me your ae reaction to geithner interview. >> i think i had the same reaction you did. we were tossing around going over the cliff in a way that makes me nervous. as the clock is ticking and we're getting closer to the end of december, i think we all wish we were closer to being confid
effective at being able to hide the net impact of his plan and ride this general good feeling of his election. it's not a healthy situation politically. we've got to do the right thing for the country. >> all right, senator. i was really struck by how easily he said -- steve said, look, if we don't get higher taxes we go over the cliff? absolutely. good to have you on the program. >> we want to avoid that. every republican is firmly convinced we should not go over this cliff and...
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to say that the election was stolen is insanity to begin with. look, i think half of the republicans vote that way because they don't know what is going on. their pastor told them, or they think they're doing it right the other half are literally insane. we have 25% of the country saying oh, my god, 21 is coming and it's because of acorn and obama stole the election and put it on mars! you're insane! 49% of them think this. oh unbelievable! all right now we turn to the second issue general petraeus. now he was, of course, caught with the mistress, etc. his career is done. but before it was done, when he was in afghanistan and president obama was offering him as head job of the c.i.a. the head of fox news sends an fox news analyst to interview him and then delivers the real message. >> i got something to say to you, by the way. >> no one else was in the room i hope? >> well, directly to advance is-- >> i'm not running. >> that's not the question at this time. he said if offered chairman, take it. if you're offered anything else, don't take it. wai
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the midterm election. hopefully this is the beginning of a good productive legislation's been iq made headlines to say go-ahead extend the tax cuts and later fight to extend for wealthier americans. does that change your position? >> what is the right thing to do but the two sides agreed they don't to raise taxes on 98% we should agree to take them out of the line of fire. awac surely come to our side but if they are worried politicians that they don't have confidence that is what they will focus on and this is a democratic point* of leverage. so let's take it off the table. and it is not contradiction it is sensible i hope you will do it. >>host: how many people agree? >> i have no idea. the whole idea came before thanksgiving to have the deputy whip meeting with my friend mccarthy to solicit opinions. then we have a larger discussion with the entire team and you guys are pretty smart it was leaked then is a sensation with a tactical question and the right thing to do. >>host: have you spoken with speaker
the midterm election. hopefully this is the beginning of a good productive legislation's been iq made headlines to say go-ahead extend the tax cuts and later fight to extend for wealthier americans. does that change your position? >> what is the right thing to do but the two sides agreed they don't to raise taxes on 98% we should agree to take them out of the line of fire. awac surely come to our side but if they are worried politicians that they don't have confidence that is what they...
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this has not been the greatest recovery from an election defeat. surely he needs time to lick his wounds. there might be a better way to do it. he did get to see twilight, so i guess he's enjoying himself. >> i want to spare talking about dana's column with dana, but if it were at the apex of his public attention spectrum and he could do a number of things, a number of effective contributions but the first thing he does is rejoin a board. how long will it be before he claims back those tax deductions he çself-willingly rescinded t his tax rate would go up to 14% instead of the 9% it would have been at? how long do you think? >> could be this tax year, no knows. it's clear governor romney has written off politics. otherwise why would he make the gifts comment unless maybe he's in deep denial of what happened. but it's clear, his time as leader of the republican party is done, is over. again, the polls were barely closed on election night before the party was already moving beyond him. a columnist at new york magazine who wrote that there are no ro
this has not been the greatest recovery from an election defeat. surely he needs time to lick his wounds. there might be a better way to do it. he did get to see twilight, so i guess he's enjoying himself. >> i want to spare talking about dana's column with dana, but if it were at the apex of his public attention spectrum and he could do a number of things, a number of effective contributions but the first thing he does is rejoin a board. how long will it be before he claims back those...
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re-elected the president and tilts the see-saw in what democrats would like in a larger revenue. >> the economy is in a different position, the president actually did sign into law a series of cuts, he's proposed a lot in his 2013 budget. it's not like he's been stagnant. we've been having this argument throughout the presidential campaign and guess what? as we keep saying, americans said we're not buying it. the conditions have changed, the economy has changed, i think the outlook in the picture has changed. that's part of the reason the president is so firm about not going back to the debt ceiling conversation again and creating that level of instability and not bending on this issue of raisings the rates on the top 2%. >> yeah. i think -- >> go ahead. >> it's an important point. i think the american people are seeing that the president has already agreed to more than a year ago to that $1 trillion of cuts. that was 100% in cuts as part of the budget control act and he's always said we need a balanced approach. we can't do it through cuts alone. he has proposed additional cuts as
re-elected the president and tilts the see-saw in what democrats would like in a larger revenue. >> the economy is in a different position, the president actually did sign into law a series of cuts, he's proposed a lot in his 2013 budget. it's not like he's been stagnant. we've been having this argument throughout the presidential campaign and guess what? as we keep saying, americans said we're not buying it. the conditions have changed, the economy has changed, i think the outlook in the...
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. >> i hate it at princeton where i went. 155 faculty the last election gave to obama. two guys gave to romney. one was a janitor. one was a visiting lecturer. yet the education i got was very one-sided. that's the way it is. all we can do is speak out. >> bill: that's the difference between you and me. i don't want to accept it. i'm struggling for a way for the state to be fair to the taxpayer. and i think that there has to be some standards. >> there is a good way for that stop paying for any of this stuff. >> bill: then the poorer kids don't get to go to college. >> they would be so rich lots of charity. >> bill: you can't depend on that. >> tuition would be lower. >> bill: you say it would be lower but i don't think so. i think the reason the state university is in play is to give people who don't have a lot of money a chance to go to school because they can't afford princeton or harvard tuition. >> go free to prince to be, harvard. >> i don't all of this stuff is accepted. >> we are telling the truth and keeping those right wing people out. >> bill: even at the ken
. >> i hate it at princeton where i went. 155 faculty the last election gave to obama. two guys gave to romney. one was a janitor. one was a visiting lecturer. yet the education i got was very one-sided. that's the way it is. all we can do is speak out. >> bill: that's the difference between you and me. i don't want to accept it. i'm struggling for a way for the state to be fair to the taxpayer. and i think that there has to be some standards. >> there is a good way for that...
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i was trying to read your thinking here and post election analysis. i think it's so interesting. if you get people angry about the way things are economic alley you think they'll blame the incumbent but it seems like a lot of people said, yeah, things aren't that great, especially poor working people, bush. >> governor romney thought this would be a referendum of barack obama. case closed. when you take a look at group of voters who said the economy was not so good, so you would think that would be an opportunity for governor romney, actually the president carried them by 13 points.ç 55-42. obviously, the economic argument on the refer side was not made. it was just a referendum. it was just a contradiction to what the president was saying instead of -- >> i want to ask you quickly on this. i thought when obama went in the first debates, i went nuts, i thought the president dropped the ball but romney was strong in the first debate because he kept saying, i'm a business guy, i can create jobs. business equals jobs. the one strong punch he had, he kept at it. then after he got o
i was trying to read your thinking here and post election analysis. i think it's so interesting. if you get people angry about the way things are economic alley you think they'll blame the incumbent but it seems like a lot of people said, yeah, things aren't that great, especially poor working people, bush. >> governor romney thought this would be a referendum of barack obama. case closed. when you take a look at group of voters who said the economy was not so good, so you would think...
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the members of congress are elected to do that. we are here as a resource for people in our states. >> was he receptive? >> in our case, who talked about this the other day as an association. we thought it was imperative to focus on things that unite us. that is what we focus on. >> the implementation of the president's health care law, and how that could affect medicare cuts? >> no specific discussion. >> there was no specific discussion of how the new health plan will affect medicare or will affect the economy. there is no specific discussion on that. there was not any lengthy discussion on the establishment of the exchanges. the focus was on what has just been reported. that is, the states are willing to share the sacrifice. we do not want to take it all, but we are willing to do our part. we do not need shifting. we do not need cuts on the federal level that merely require tax increases on the state level. there was a unity by all of these governments -- all of these governors. the goal was not to get specific on any area, but
the members of congress are elected to do that. we are here as a resource for people in our states. >> was he receptive? >> in our case, who talked about this the other day as an association. we thought it was imperative to focus on things that unite us. that is what we focus on. >> the implementation of the president's health care law, and how that could affect medicare cuts? >> no specific discussion. >> there was no specific discussion of how the new health plan...
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tell me what you want for us to do but i don't like the idea that i was elected and my election certificate is as valid as anybody else's here not to have a say in this. i'd say to my colleagues, lets us, the people's house, take back control of this argument, come together and put something forward. >> you and others have signed on to a so-called discharge petition that would cause the house of representatives to take a vote on the bill passed in the senate some time ago that would extend the so-called bush era tax cuts for people earning less than $250,000. it requires 218 signatures. that means you've got to get some republicans to sign on. do you have any indication that any people will break from speaker boehner and sign your petition? >> i think so. i know one for example, my friend walter jones down in north carolina, said that he's open to it. i think i need 41 people now. we've got 177. i need 41 people to come forward and i think what's really interesting about this is, republicans aren't violating any pledge on this. they are assuring taxes don't go up. i see no reason why we can
tell me what you want for us to do but i don't like the idea that i was elected and my election certificate is as valid as anybody else's here not to have a say in this. i'd say to my colleagues, lets us, the people's house, take back control of this argument, come together and put something forward. >> you and others have signed on to a so-called discharge petition that would cause the house of representatives to take a vote on the bill passed in the senate some time ago that would...
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with sweep the election and gain control of the entire legislative branch of government in one election. here we see how the senate was specifically designed to prevent the tyranny of the majority. in federalist papers 66, madison, the father of the constitution, continues his explanation of the unique role of the senate, the unique role of the senate. quote -- "there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion or some illicit advantage or misled by the miss representation of interest in men may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. in these critical moments, house salutary will be the interfere ebbs of some temperate and respected body of citizens in order to check the misguided career and to suspend the blows meditated by the people against themselves until reason, justice and truth can regain their authority over the public mind." end of quote. now, i want you to contrast these quotes from madison and his role as the father of our constitution, says the constitution is intend
with sweep the election and gain control of the entire legislative branch of government in one election. here we see how the senate was specifically designed to prevent the tyranny of the majority. in federalist papers 66, madison, the father of the constitution, continues his explanation of the unique role of the senate, the unique role of the senate. quote -- "there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion or some illicit advantage or...
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he didn't win the election. he certainly did have a plan. >> it is not one that romney backed really. stuart: that's true. i do see a little drift here, a little drift here. at least you're prepared to admit that the president should put forward a reform plan. so let's move on to the issue of tax rates. >> okay. stuart: do you think the president is right to absolutely insist on tax rate increases? he won't tolerate reductions in deductions. he won't do that. no, it must be tax rates. will you defend that? >> well, i think he has the upper hand in the sense that seen, americans say they support raising taxes on the wealthy, so i think he feels that he has a mandate on that issue. look, i feel if the republicans are willing to make up that revenue another way, he should be open to that. i don't think it has to come from raising taxes. it could come -- stuart: the republicans have put forward a plan to raise 800 billion dollars over ten years. >> right. stuart: that's not by raising rates. that's by restricting de
he didn't win the election. he certainly did have a plan. >> it is not one that romney backed really. stuart: that's true. i do see a little drift here, a little drift here. at least you're prepared to admit that the president should put forward a reform plan. so let's move on to the issue of tax rates. >> okay. stuart: do you think the president is right to absolutely insist on tax rate increases? he won't tolerate reductions in deductions. he won't do that. no, it must be tax...
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and she wasn't there to certify the election. that's a pretty big thing the governor needs to do so they had to have the secretary of state do it. >> stephanie: maybe she's in china trying to help out adelson with his troubles. >> apparently she visited a soldier in walter reed yesterday. she's in the d.c. area. but they won't -- she won't say why she's out of the state for the entire week. >> i would love to see her debate hillary. >> stephanie: governor, your opening statement? >> ahhh. >> happy to be here. >> stephanie: all right, governor, thank you. >> 18-second moment of silence at the very beginning of it. >> stephanie: that was the beginning of her prepared statements. it was what is your opening statement. my statement is -- ahhh. >> i'll see if i can post that on your facebook page. i'm sure a lot of people haven't seen that. >> stephanie: oh, dear. all right. chris in yankton, steph and the mooks, what's with the rash of people calling in and saying wait a minute while i take you off speaker. good lord, maybe you can d
and she wasn't there to certify the election. that's a pretty big thing the governor needs to do so they had to have the secretary of state do it. >> stephanie: maybe she's in china trying to help out adelson with his troubles. >> apparently she visited a soldier in walter reed yesterday. she's in the d.c. area. but they won't -- she won't say why she's out of the state for the entire week. >> i would love to see her debate hillary. >> stephanie: governor, your opening...
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midterm election and a second-year presidency. john boehner is speaker for four years and hopefully this is the beginning of a productive relationship. >> host: unison news last week -- a >> guest: unintentionally. >> host: you said republicans should agree to president. extend the tax cuts for 90% of americans and tightly drawn for extending tax cuts for wealthier americans. given what was put up a speaker boehner yesterday, does that change her position? >> guest: not at all. more importantly it's the right thing to do. the two sides agree we don't want to raise taxes on 90% of the american people. we should take one of the line of fire so to speak. i want them to follow debate committee engaged in the debate. i think it will come to our side of the debate. but if their weight in the next 30 days their taxes will go up, they don't have a vote of confidence anyway mishandled the, that's what they're going to focus on. this has been a democratic point of leverage in the debate. my position would be, let's take up the table. that p
midterm election and a second-year presidency. john boehner is speaker for four years and hopefully this is the beginning of a productive relationship. >> host: unison news last week -- a >> guest: unintentionally. >> host: you said republicans should agree to president. extend the tax cuts for 90% of americans and tightly drawn for extending tax cuts for wealthier americans. given what was put up a speaker boehner yesterday, does that change her position? >> guest: not...
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. >> though i wish this election turned out a little differently, i'm proud of the campaign that mitt romney and i ran. losing is part of politics. and it can often prepare the way for greater victories. >> speaking of greater victories, at the latest "washington post"/abc poll on hillary clinton, chris cizilla indicates strong support for hillary clinton. she has really i guess she's the most popular figure in american politics. >> she is at her highest popularity rating that we have ever in "the washington post"/abc poll measured her and almost six in ten, 57% of americans, this isn't democrats, this is the american public broadly, want her to run for president in 2016. now, i would say, if she becomes a candidate, i think -- inevitably she'll be seen much more in that partisan atmosphere, some of her stratospheric numbers will drop down. i would say she has been skeptical very skeptical of running. if you look at these numbers if you have any interest of being the president of the united states this may be a hard race to say no to. >> i think the rest of the political world knows w
. >> though i wish this election turned out a little differently, i'm proud of the campaign that mitt romney and i ran. losing is part of politics. and it can often prepare the way for greater victories. >> speaking of greater victories, at the latest "washington post"/abc poll on hillary clinton, chris cizilla indicates strong support for hillary clinton. she has really i guess she's the most popular figure in american politics. >> she is at her highest popularity...
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starting to realize just how important the hispanic vote is in the wake of this last general election because according to the pew hispanic center a whopping 67% of latino voters are democrat. >> so when it comes to issues like the economy or immigration, we see hispanics seeing the democratic party as the party that is more in line with their views. >> and that is the main reason, that is the main reason why g.o.p. leaders are saying something has got to change. they have got to change their strategy, shep. >> shepard: casey stegall in dallas tonight. the first president bush is doing better but is he still in the hospital tonight. that's a word from doctors in houston. they say george h.w. bush, bush 41 has been fighting a cough caused by bronchitis and they don't want to send him home too soon. the former president is 88 years old. he has been in the hospital since the day after thanksgiving. former senator bob dole made a rare visit to capitol hill today. appearing frail to observers after recent hospital stay. he is 89 now. he was in d.c. to rally treaty for disability rights. hi
starting to realize just how important the hispanic vote is in the wake of this last general election because according to the pew hispanic center a whopping 67% of latino voters are democrat. >> so when it comes to issues like the economy or immigration, we see hispanics seeing the democratic party as the party that is more in line with their views. >> and that is the main reason, that is the main reason why g.o.p. leaders are saying something has got to change. they have got to...
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greg: after the election, people get what they deserve? >> i hate to admit that, but i think you are right. a lot of this is just messaging. i think that president obama president obama did a much better job making the election about dancing horses and contraception and gay marriage. but it's not about that. we are going down the tubes and we have this massive onslaught of taxes coming on in the midst of a terrible economy. greg: i asked this of mary katharine ham. a republicans making a big mistake by being painted into a corner as defending the rich? >> i think that if it gets portrayed like that -- republicans are terrible and they need to learn how to talk about fiscal responsibility in a bright and positive way. they have not been very good at that. mitt romney, though i thought he turned out to be a strong candidate, he always we failed to tell the story of low taxes and limited government and freedom. so republicans need to learn how to do this much better. greg: charlie, thank you so much. it's good to see you. jenna: turning next
greg: after the election, people get what they deserve? >> i hate to admit that, but i think you are right. a lot of this is just messaging. i think that president obama president obama did a much better job making the election about dancing horses and contraception and gay marriage. but it's not about that. we are going down the tubes and we have this massive onslaught of taxes coming on in the midst of a terrible economy. greg: i asked this of mary katharine ham. a republicans making a...
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i think we still need to get through the election or the post election haze. i would say that -- to everybody, listen, we're no longer running for office here. this is about getting back down to brass tacks and figuring out how to solve it. >> which side is not campaigning anymore? >> you've got to listen to who's not talking. i think that's -- in washington, it's always who's not talking. >> we haven't really heard much from senate leadership. >> so that's where our deal gets carved out? >> well, when you start to hear some things from the senate leadership, then you'll know we're getting close to getting something done. and right now they're sending out minions and talking about things that i think are really, you know, staking out claims so they can say they've done that for their constituencies. but it's time right now for the moderates on both sides to step up. for those that are not necessarily at risk of losing elections in the near term to step up and say, listen, just like the leaders said earlier in the program. this is a math problem. it's really no
i think we still need to get through the election or the post election haze. i would say that -- to everybody, listen, we're no longer running for office here. this is about getting back down to brass tacks and figuring out how to solve it. >> which side is not campaigning anymore? >> you've got to listen to who's not talking. i think that's -- in washington, it's always who's not talking. >> we haven't really heard much from senate leadership. >> so that's where our...
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history and all elected to a second term. but it couldn't save them from the dreaded second term curse. it dated back to 1936 when president roosevelt won 46 out of 48 states. he used those results in an attempt to shake up the supreme court and that tarnished his reputation. fast forward to 1984. president reagan's economic recovery turned 49 of the 50 states red. the inran contraservice surface americans didn't like being kept in the dark . then the scandal impossible to forget. >> i want you to listen to me. i will say it again. i did not have sexual relations with that woman: >> gretchen: nick is a presidential historian and author of the book presidential leadership. decisions that changed the nation and he's my guest this morning. >> morning, gretchen. >> gretchen: looking back in history president obama is now reelected to the second term. what do we suspect about the curse. >> it is an interesting topic it is difficult . going all the way back to wilson and league of nation . fdr and truman got run out of office . the
history and all elected to a second term. but it couldn't save them from the dreaded second term curse. it dated back to 1936 when president roosevelt won 46 out of 48 states. he used those results in an attempt to shake up the supreme court and that tarnished his reputation. fast forward to 1984. president reagan's economic recovery turned 49 of the 50 states red. the inran contraservice surface americans didn't like being kept in the dark . then the scandal impossible to forget. >> i...
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on friday, we'll get our first post election look at how many jobs are being created. and the early forecasts are not good. cnn money forecasts just 77,000 net jobs created in november. that's far fewer than the 171,000 that were added in october. a lot happened last month. superstorm sandy, labor turmoil at hostess and business uncertainty because our elected officials won't get their act together and deal with the fiscal cliff. brace yourself for a job number that could be even lower than the already weak forecast. i hope i am wrong about that. from the cnn money newsroom in new york, i'm ali velshi. that's it from me. same time tomorrow. i plugged in snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. with snapshot, i knew what i could save before i switched to progressive. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. you're not filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+
on friday, we'll get our first post election look at how many jobs are being created. and the early forecasts are not good. cnn money forecasts just 77,000 net jobs created in november. that's far fewer than the 171,000 that were added in october. a lot happened last month. superstorm sandy, labor turmoil at hostess and business uncertainty because our elected officials won't get their act together and deal with the fiscal cliff. brace yourself for a job number that could be even lower than the...
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>> you know, election year, perhaps. debate going on. >> part of the debate. still, it's pretty significant. >> a runner-up included, malarkey. >> good one. >>> we're going to turn to beyonce, revealing more of herself than we've seen before. the superstar, singer and actress, is about to take her debut as a director. with a private look back at her baby bump, to home movies. cecilia vega has our look. >> i struggle with how much do i reveal about myself? >> reporter: it's beyonce, like we've never seen her before. up close and very personal. >> if i'm scared, be scared. allow it. >> reporter: the 16-time grammy winner is now making her directorial debut, in a documentary about her life on and off stage. a life until now, she's gone to great lengths to keep private. the documentary, set to air on hbo in february, will feature plenty of videos. not those kinds of videos. home videos and self-shot interviews. >> this is the first time that we're really going to see her private side. going to make 2013 really her year. >> reporter: the documentary will reportedly
>> you know, election year, perhaps. debate going on. >> part of the debate. still, it's pretty significant. >> a runner-up included, malarkey. >> good one. >>> we're going to turn to beyonce, revealing more of herself than we've seen before. the superstar, singer and actress, is about to take her debut as a director. with a private look back at her baby bump, to home movies. cecilia vega has our look. >> i struggle with how much do i reveal about myself?...